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If copper dropped below 320, I suspect it will drop further. It will probably go down for a week or so and then turn around and rally back, test 320, probably fail, and then start going back down again. Regarding interest rates, it depends on the borrower. For the government or other large A-paper borrowers, nothing has really changed. But for everyone else, borrowing costs have definitely gone up. When financing becomes more expensive, economic activity is expected to go down. When economic activity goes down, the demand for commodities goes down also, dropping the price for copper and oil (now down at $70). Personally, I think a lot of this is speculative right now. The pricing adjustments may be exaggerated in the short-term. But if copper dropped significantly below 320, I would expect that same number to represent resistance (a price ceiling) from now on – at least for a while. The stock market tumble is also driven by dropping corporate earnings. Three months ago, the Dow Jones P/E ratio was 18. Then, a bunch of Dow companies reported poor earnings so the P/E ratio went up to 21. That’s just too high right now. In fact, you can think of it as the inverse of interest rates. When you buy a stock, you’re effectively buying the company’s earnings. So if the P/E ratio is 20, you’re basically expecting a 5% return (100/20=5). But interest rates in the bond market are higher than that. Furthermore, stocks are more risky than most bonds. So let’s assume an interest rate of 6.5%. That would result in a P/E ratio of 15. Now, that might be a bit low but I think 17 or 18 is probably about right. Let’s take the average: 17.5 or a yield of 5.7%. Today, the Dow P/E ratio is 19.6. To get down to 17.5, stock prices have to drop by another 10.7%. That would put the Dow at 11277. Wow. That’s a big drop. But it’s possible. It might take a few months but I think it’s possible. And then, if corporate earnings drop further next quarter, it could drop even more. For the time being, the Dow’s got strong support at 12000 so I expect the initial drop to end there. It will probably bounce off, go up for a bit and then come back down, test 12000 and eventually breach it to the down side. That’s what I expect. |